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Saturday, July 15, 2006

BBC: where human life doesn't count if you are on the "wrong" side

REUTERS Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:16pm ET: BEIRUT (Reuters) - Israel killed at least 32 civilians on Saturday, including 15 children, in air strikes meant to punish Lebanon for letting Hizbollah guerrillas menace the Jewish state's northern border. (...) bringing the death toll in four days of Israeli attacks to 99. All but three of the dead have been civilians.

BUT ON THE SAME FACT TWO DIFFERENT STORIES:

REUTERS Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:16pm ET: An Israeli missile incinerated a van in south Lebanon, killing 20 people, among them 15 children, in the deadliest single attack of the four-day-old campaign launched by Israel after Hizbollah captured two of its soldiers and killed eight. (same link above)

BBC Last Updated: Saturday, 15 July 2006, 16:17 GMT 17:17 UK : An Israeli air raid has killed at least 13 Lebanese civilians who were fleeing southern border areas. Women and children were among those killed when the convoy was hit.

BBC Last Updated: 16:40 GMT 17:40 UK - from 13 to 17

See also:

- BBC censored the VATICAN


REUTERS: "In particular, the Holy See deplores right now the attack on Lebanon, a free and sovereign nation, and assures its closeness to these people who already have suffered so much to defend their independence," he told Vatican Radio. (...) "The right of defence on the part of a state does not exempt it from its responsibility to respect international law, particularly regarding the safeguarding of civilian populations," he said.

The BBC NEWS website does NOT report on this story at all

Update: it seems that BBC News website reported on the Vatican position after all. In Israel hits Hezbollah leader's HQ, the 22th paragraph reads:
French President Jacques Chirac said the Israeli air strikes were "completely disproportionate" and the Vatican described them as an attack on a sovereign and free nation.
That's all!

- BBC RACISM

Actress and columnist Maureen Lipman on BBC 1's This Week programme of 13 July, said: "Human life is not cheap to the Israelis, and human life on the other side is quite cheap actually..."

Of the This Week team - Andrew Neil, Dianne Abbott and Michael Portillo - only Abbott responded, calling the comment "unfair", before Neil quickly moved the discussion along. Read Arab Media Watch Alert

125 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, Maureen Lipman has finally 'come out', the lady who has made a career out of playing parts of ordinary decent women with a sense of humour etc........
Yet throughout all this time, under the skin, she has revealed herself as having been, and continuing to be, the worst kind of jew. She is not an Israeli and probably would not confess to being pro-zionist; she would probably say she is English and has English manners and principles.
But underneath it all there is the same kind of jewishness that has made jews disliked the world over - the way they can plead the pariah one minute and manifest the most arrogant conceit the next, and, for many years now, continuing to plead the victim whilst playing the brute.

By saying this of course I shall be branded an anti-semite and an aficionado of holocausts, for this is inevitably the fate of anybody who criticises almost any jew for whatever reason. Sobeit as long as nobody claims Maureen Lipman is a decent human being after her having expressed the kind of views she has expressed this week - not on a blogsite but on what the BBC claims is the most precious broadcasting body in the world.

7:21 PM  
Blogger The Cat's Dream said...

Dear Anonymous,

Thanks for your comment.

While I may understand your feelings about Ms. Lipman, I believe that making generalization is completely wrong.

The expressions "the jews", "the americans", "the muslims", "the blacks", "the gays", are meaningless and dangerous.

There are not such groups. Actually, these generalizations are used to divide each other and to move the attention to something else.

About Israel. Yes, it's true that the Israeli government and many organizations inside and outside Israel use the argument of anti-semitism every time someone is critical of the Israel's policies.

I think that by doing that, they are racist and opportunist.

However, we should never fall in this kind of trap. It's what too many people would like us to do.

Best wishes,
Gabriele Zamparini

10:58 PM  
Anonymous Alterkocker said...

Dear Gabriele,
If we were dealing with single, individual units, the problems would be concomitantly infinitesimally smaller. But we are not. We are dealing with aggregations, some of them massive, some of them extremely powerful.
'The UK', 'Israel', 'the Israelis', 'the US', 'Chechnya' etc. etc. What are these if they are not groups, however mixed in some ways?
If one tries to be oh so politically correct (a definition in a constant state of flux, if ever there was one) one ends up saying nothing of worth. Or, bend over backwards too far and you end up flat on your arse.
Even Robert Fisk has apparently finally lost it after years of suffering the most atrocious attrition for speaking his mind, harrassment from the very group we are talking about - though here we speak not its name.

11:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Gabriele,
If we were dealing with single, individual units, the problems would be concomitantly infinitesimally smaller. But we are not. We are dealing with aggregations, some of them massive, some of them extremely powerful.
'The UK', 'Israel', 'the Israelis', 'the US', 'Chechnya', 'Hollywood' 'the British police', etc. etc. What are these if they are not groups, however mixed in some ways?
If one tries to be oh so politically correct (a definition necessarily in a constant state of flux) one ends up saying nothing of worth. Or, bend over backwards too far and one ends up flat on one's arse.
Even Robert Fisk has apparently finally lost it after years of suffering the most atrocious attrition for speaking his mind, harrassment from the very group we are talking about - though here we may not speak its name.
Incidentally, I am not talking about Israelis specifically or in particular when I talk about accusations of anti-semitism. I am talking about j... in every walk of life. I am sure that a person of your experience already knows this and I am dismayed at your rather righteous tone. However, I would not accuse you of disingenuousness, merely of timidity.

11:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am sorry but a mistake was made in that the 3rd comment on this page was amended by the 4th but a computer error allowed the first version to be printed

11:58 PM  
Blogger The Cat's Dream said...

Thanks Anonymous.

I still think that generalizations are wrong and counterproductive.

I know many Jewish people who are very critical of Israel, its policies and the propaganda around this issue.

But besides that, I'd like to stress that the issues we are debating are political issues and religion is used by the power that be as a smoke screen.

From an historical perspective, the region we call Middle East has seen Jews, Christian and Muslim live in peace together for many centuries.

It was the Christian Europe to persecute the other two groups.

I think it's quite time for all of us to stop using religion as an excuse, in a way or in the other, to cover different reasons of human being's behaviour.

Let's just remember sometimes we all are brothers and sisters of the same human family.

If someone, some organization or some group feel or think to be superior to the rest of humanity, that’s racism and nothing good can come from it.

Best wishes,
Gabriele Zamparini

10:45 AM  
Anonymous Alterkocker said...

Dear Gabriele,

Since nothing in life, not even in science, is precisely understood, generalisations are the only way we can construe the facts as we perceive them (perception being the key to everything in terms of human behaviour). Although imperfect, it is the only way we can begin to make sense of things. A generalisation is NOT a dogmatic statement, it is an approximation which allows for exceptions and variations. You, yourself, make generalisations every time you comment on your site, often, as with all of us, without realising it.
However, this is a semantic point only as I do not wish to preach to you nor anybody, just as I do not like to be preached to, not even any more from the pulpit.
Please do not consider me patronising when I say that as far as I am concerned, your heart is definitely in the right place and your sentiments always humane and fair.
But it is no use going so far and no further. Of course you know good j.... Everybody does. But can you say you know any good Zionists? If the answer is no, you will have just made a generalisation. If the answer is yes,then I would ask if you ever know any Israeli, Zionist or j.. who ever knew a good Nazi - because there were surely some.
More importantly for you however, is to decide whether those, like me, who openly admit to making generalisations which they believe to be honest and therefore fair, are justified in expressing themselves publicly or not. If the answer be no, I would suggest you are guilty of generalisation as well as purported proscription of generalisation, and this could of course be interpreted as an infringement of the right to free speech - if that state really exists, which of course, it does not.
Draconian libel laws in the country you now live in - the worst of any in the western world save Ireland - see to that. Hence the appeal of blogsites to the inhabitants of those countries.
Thus it might be better were you to refuse to publish matter you consider libellous. Not necessarily because you disagree with it but because you are afraid that through your site you might be held responsible and incur high financial costs. Otherwise you will inevitably be held guilty of preaching - not by a court of law but by your readers - if you set out to defend your site by philosophical or moral argument. Then again, perhaps when the subject of blogging has been studied properly, it might reveal that blogsite owners really seek only comments that sympathise with and reinforce their own views, as opposed to forum-like contributions.
Anyway, good luck. I share your terrible anger about the actions of the Israeli government towards non-aligned countries in the Middle East and the Palestinians and Lebanese in particular.

ps. Religion has nothing to do with it.

pps. Robert Fisk writing in the Independent today is not the same man who once wrote 'Pity The Nation'. Somebody in the interim has been tampering with his genes.

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